Hopeless Norleras? OTK or not?

Lmao.We had this talk.Judgement Dragon says it is a OTK deck.I say it is not.
I mean it can or might otk when you get a good hand.That does not make it an "OTK" deck.

Many times it is luck or shuffler.Nowhere in the rules it says that is an OTK deck.
Anyways, pot your opinions here.

Many decks are capable of OTki'ng.In fact that is most decks goal.To OTK and get a good draw.Anyways post here.

Well imo Hopeless Norless is some cheap otk deck seriously

Yeah, I agree... you can be left with no cards on your opponent's first turn, which is really annoying >.< Even thought you don't lose right then, you may as well have lost.

I'd say a Hopeless Norleras is a OTK deck, even using Norleras the special summoning capabilities of Dark Grepher, REDMD, and Dark Creator can be ridiculous. I even made my own and last night i even had 2 FTK, probably luck but still to get that much power out is ridiculous and should be classified a OTK deck

Well, although otking is not a main goal for that deck, but it otks more than often if built and played good, and it is very hard to be stopped and to top it all it has some mad support, like future fusion and etc, it is one of the most powerful deck kinds around, so in my oppinion although its main purpose is not otk it does it 2 often -_- so i say it is OTK

It can produce an OTK , but its not an otk... first of all you need the the right cards in your grave, even though you have used norleras effect you can't activate wyvrn cause you have already performed a normal summon with PoC second wyrn's effect triggers at the end phase of the turn so your opponent can have 2 of his turns before Red eyes can attack, third in order to produce a mere OTK you should have dumped enough DArk monsters in grave and when you have used succesfully used norleras effect you should have drawn Dark Creator in order to produce an OTK... There are many ways to negate PoC from resolving,
This deck is very risky and the key card here is PoC cause if you didnt get the chance to draw him then you will surely lose the duel.

Some other decks can produce an OTK but that doesn't mean they are OTK decks

kneil_20 wrote:It can produce an OTK , but its not an otk... first of all you need the the right cards in your grave, even though you have used norleras effect you can't activate wyvrn cause you have already performed a normal summon with PoC second wyrn's effect triggers at the end phase of the turn so your opponent can have 2 of his turns before Red eyes can attack, third in order to produce a mere OTK you should have dumped enough DArk monsters in grave and when you have used succesfully used norleras effect you should have drawn Dark Creator in order to produce an OTK... There are many ways to negate PoC from resolving,
This deck is very risky and the key card here is PoC cause if you didnt get the chance to draw him then you will surely lose the duel.

Some other decks can produce an OTK but that doesn't mean they are OTK decks

The fact is that Kneil is right and Kiryu111 is right at some parts.
it "can" or "might" depending on how you play them.

just because it otks once or 2 times does not make it an otk.
I asked many pros like Bertha and others and they agree that is not otk -_-


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btw I took the topic here too and see what duelists like neko have to say xD

btw it is a Tier 1 deck.but not otk.